I just read an interesting post from Scott Adams on Free Will. Its interesting enough reading the post, but the 800 odd comments are even more interesting.
I personally belive in free will. Why? Becuase i see it every day. My decisions have repercussions that i can see and mesure. And i know that those repercussions would have been different if i chose differently.
But besides that, my point is this. If we say that there is no free will, that effectivly relives us of any responsibility. That means that we can go around do what ever we want and put the blame on pre-destination. It effectlvly invalidates the centuries old belief of law and order ( but this I mean that law and order is the manifestation of the public’s social concience). So if Scott says, i didn’t really mean to do that, it was the cemical mixture in his brain, what are we suppost to do? Sentance his brain? Or what if George bush said that in his trial? What are we supposed to do? Can you see what i mean. the question of free will is really tha question of the fabric of society. If nobody takes responsibility for their actions, then we’re really in deep crap.
If we say, “Yes, i take responsibility for X, Y and Z” we have the logical structure of a society. This means that we take responisbility for out actions and we remember that in our decision making procces. The onus is on ourselves to make our bit of society work. If eveyone does thier bit, we shouldn’t have a problem. The best way I can describe it is that we have the opposite of Ancrchy.
In addition to denying free will, scott does not belive in God. Again, haveing a higher sourse of right and wrong is essential to man. Thousands of years of human history prove that man in incapable of making the right decisions. Yes, we have free will. And yes we can choose to implemet His wisdom in our desicions.
And we can also choose not to belive in free will. The choice is ours.
You have come to an incorrect conclusion. You argue the existence of free will by arguing that there needs to be free will for blah, blah, blah. Once upon a time the same thing was done to argue that the Earth did not revolve around the sun. The truth of free will does not hinge upon the supposed fallout from the lack of it. I suggest you focus on will itself, and whether there is a way for it to be free, rather than saying there must be free will or society will collapse.
Meanwhile, go ahead, try what you claim in your last sentence. Can you “freely” choose to not believe in free will? Go ahead, try it, can you honestly state, “I am now not believing in free will, I don’t believe in free will any longer.”, and really mean it?
Of course you can’t. You can’t do as you claim.
Scott Adams, and anyone else that has come to see why free will is not possible did not freely choose to believe such. He was convinced by a collection of reasons as to why this is the way things are. Just as you are currently convinced that there is free will by your collection of reasons. It is only by conviction that you would ever be able to join us in saying that there is no free will- not by an act of supposedly free will.
Now that you’ve been glib, I invite you to see how intellectually honest you can be reflecting on this.